We’ve already labelled dermaplaning as the hottest treatment of 2018, but has your practitioner had the right training? I chatted with Riana from Dermaplane Pro who trains practitioners in dermaplaning, about why it’s so important to make sure your practitioner is qualified to be doing your treatment.
Trish: Hello listeners, well I’m here today with Riana. Now, Riana runs a very successful centre in Canberra and she is actually the Australia DermaplanePro guru person. The only person that you can deal with. Today we’re gonna have a … For those of you that haven’t heard about the DermaplanePro, I’m going to have … we’re going to have a bit of a chat today with Riana about it because it’s a … I hadn’t heard of it until Riana contacted me, and I’m absolutely sold on it, so it’s a anti-aging rejuvenating skin treatment, whatever you wanna call it. Riana’s gonna tell us all about it today. So, welcome Riana!
Trish: Thank you so much for spending your Sunday afternoon talking to us today!
Riana: Oh, good.
Trish: So Riana, tell us, first of all, what is DermaplanePro?
Riana: Right, so dermaplaning and the treatment, we use a special designed blade to basically scrape down the epidermis. We’re going to go through the layers, having a superficial treatment, a deeper treatment, and then intense treatment. So physically, you can almost call it a surgical … a form of dermabrasion. In the process, we’re also removing all the vellus hair. It’s an absolute deep cleansing rejuvenation treatment. If you want to improve your clients’ skin texture, you will always ask them to come in more, because the more you take off the epidermis, the more cell growth you get.
So there are good results on an elderly skin with deep seated wrinkles to … just transform the whole skin. Also, very nice to do intensive treatments after to get product penetration. Then also to monitor your client’s skin through this process. So really all skins and all ages can do it, but I must say the most successful results that we have is the age group from about 25 to 55.
Trish: Oh great, because when you said elderly skin, I thought, “Hang on”. No, this is for much younger than what we think. Basically what it is, it’s kind of a way of sloughing off if you like, or scraping off the dead cells that sit on the surface of your skin, which gives you a smoother finish and it kind of gets rid of those dead cells. You do more than one treatment to first start off, is that right?
Riana: Yes, it depends on what the client wants for her skin or what you recommend for the client. I always say to the girls that I train, you can almost see it as a three phase treatment. The first phase would be to get to know the client’s skin and remove their dead layer, and then a few weeks later you do your second treatment and you go deeper. Then the third treatment is even more deep, so that you can speed up the cell growth over this time, and always remember the more you actually take off the epidermis in a given 28 days … you get ahead of the skin’s natural exfoliation method. You actually intensify and stimulate a lot of collagen, and collagen growth in the skin.
Trish: So tell me … ’cause the people that’ll be listening to this today will be customers, but they’ll also be clinicians who might be looking to add something to their repertoire of treatments that they offer the patients. Just coming from a patient perspective, what’s the difference that they’re gonna notice, and what makes this … like I love it, and I know this method. What makes this such a beneficial treatment for the patient?
What are they gonna know?
Riana: I love it because when you do a client the first time it is absolutely a, “Wow” result. You take off all that embedded … embedded oil, dead skin from the surface. The client will say her skin feels absolutely squeaky clean. That is, I think that the advantage of it is that it’s such a simple thing but with such a “wow” result. That clients get completely absorbed and stuck on it, because nothing else they do gives them this super clean feeling.
Trish: Yeah, okay. Basically … there’s no pain, is there? Is there any pain?
Riana: No pain, no down time. Of course, when the clinic wants to offer it we make sure that we train the girls. They also need to be qualified. The lowest qualification would be a diploma in beauty. We stick the clinic up so that she can give superior treatments to the client. We don’t want the client to feel that she can go and shop online and buy a tool and do it at home because this is a specialised blade. Also, stressing to the clients, don’t fall for cheap treatments because the cheap imitations on the market is really used as a shaving tool, where this is a medical blade. So there’s a big difference for the consumer just to be alert. Wherever you go to and whatever treatment you sign up to have is the right treatment. It is dermaplaning, not shaving.
Trish: So, tell me because you say it’s like a scalpel. For me, you think a scalpel would be in the hands of a surgeon, but this is a treatment done by dermal therapists, isn’t it?
Riana: Yes, so there is a lot of medical blades or scalpels on the market. We’ve been using it for decades to remove moles and do tiny little incisions in the skin. This is also a medical blade, but the doctor that has developed this blade has developed it at a certain angle, which is 45. The front part of the scalpel is blunt, so it does not have a point as most of the surgical blades have. Design went into it. He patented the blade and it’s used for dermaplaning. I hear often that people have found a scalpel somewhere and they are doing it, but they will not get the 45 angle int he removal process. That is the prescribed angle so the girls doing it cannot cut the client, they cannot take too much skin off. It’s a very precise method. The 45 angle is the secret.
Trish: I know as well because you have told me, you can’t just say to a practitioner, “Here you go. Buy the pack and there you go, just go do your dermaplane.” You offer quite an intense … there’s a bit of training programme to go through and there’s continuous learning for the practitioners. Also, you provide all that training … people that are having that treatment done, if they go for DermaplanePro they know they are going to get somebody being properly trained in the procedure. For them to be able to offer any of the Dermaplane products or treatments they have to have gone through the training. Is that right?
Riana: That is right Trish because if you think about a GP that works in the medical centre and he wants to start doing injectables, he doesn’t know anything about it. You have to have special training to do certain skill. I deal with doctors, nurses, dermal therapists every day, and if they say they think they’ll be okay doing it, I say, “Okay, do your training and then show your skill.” And it’s not an easy skill because first of all, you have a scalpel in your hand and you need to know exactly how to put that down, move it forward and actually get the skin and the hair off. A lot of clients have actually said that. They go for dermaplaning, but when they have it with me, they realise what it is all about. The training is definitely compulsory. I do not train anybody without a proper qualification, and I also do not like to train one staff member that will show others to do it. The staff member that gets trained might be good, but the other staff might stuff it up for the clinic or the doctor.
Riana: I’ve trained doctors across Australia and they struggle because it a specialised technique.
Trish: Yeah. I think that’s one really important thing to get across to people is there probably are other blades, or what do you call them, on the market, but no matter what, anyone that’s got the DermaplanePro and using its line of products is going to be completely trained. You offer a certification for that, too, don’t you?
Riana: Yes. I’m the Australian branch for DermaplanePro.com. They have specific products and specific protocol to follow. When we sign up a student or therapists who goes through the training process, we actually give her a certification with a number and that get filed. It gets clear on the certificate that we are certifying the professional or certifying the clinic or certifying the spa or the medi-spa. The clients are definitely assured of the good treatment.
Trish: Yep. Now, one thing that’s really exciting for anyone that wants to know any more or looking at it, now you’re going to the Beauty Expo which is coming up in September. Is it the 7th in Sydney? The 7th and 8th in Sydney?
Riana: It’s the 8th and the 9th, and we are Booth 146.
Trish: Okay, and I know for a fact that you’ve got some fantastic … I was looking at the incentives that you are offering for people to come and find out or come and have a practise. Or not a practise, come and have a watch and see what it is. For practitioners who are looking to offer this as an [inaudible 00:11:09] in their clinic or as an extra treatment, you’ve got the things that are happening at the Beauty Expo. I don’t want give away too much, so I’d rather leave that at that. For anyone who’s interested, if you’re going to the Beauty Expo, make sure you drop into the Dermaplane booth. That’s practitioners … I also know there are a lot of people that aren’t practitioners go to the Beauty Expo as well, so if you want to find out more about as a customer, and you want some rejuvenating treatments, but you don’t want the pain or the down time. You just want to look good, and you want your skin to feel great, this could actually be the perfect solution. Just tell me one other thing, Riana, does the treatment take a long time?
Riana: In the beginning, when the student is learning, it might take a long time. Probably about 45 minutes to do the full face, but if you become more experienced and you have built up speed and confidence, it can be between 15 minutes to half an hour.
Trish: Okay, cool. That’s pretty good. What about for someone who’s experienced? Sorry, if you’re a customer and you’re going to go and have this treatment done, how long you gonna be in there for? You don’t have to put any numbing cream on, so you just go in, make your appointment. How long does the treatment take?
Riana: Maximum a half an hour. We have got specialised treatments we train the therapist to do. It’s all about adding onto the treatments. The basic dermaplaning will be half an hour, but if the client wants a more intensive treatment, we have specialised products that we apply after the dermaplane. We have a papaya peel that works really well injunction with the plane. Also, we have a stem cell mask and a lactic acid mask for different skin types, depending on what we want to achieve. We force feed the skin after the dermaplane with very active ingredients. That can be up to an hour.
Trish: Okay, so it works well injunction with other treatments as well.
Riana: For sure.
Riana: If you want to intensify your laser or your peel, even your dermaplane, you can do the plane before an intensive treatment. I will teach the therapists how to prep the skin to do the plane, and how to continue over to the specialised treatments. We combine it with [IPL 00:13:46], we combine it with the resurfacing lasers or just a normal clear and brilliant. You can also combine it with your peels, depending on your product that you use, and lovely before … I can almost say I love it with the dermaplane because it intensifies actually the process and the absorption rate increases so you have a very good outcome.
Trish: Alright, but if you were a patient even just as a one off treatment, you can have it on its own? You gonna notice a difference?
Riana: Oh for sure. It’s amazing, you know Trish, your skin feels really like you’ve been reborn. Clients love just the plane on its own as well.
Trish: For the practitioner … can a Beauty Therapist do this if they’re trained properly?
Riana: If they have diploma in beauty, definitely. The training that we offer is also lifelong support. Beauty therapists can call me. I do Skype, and also I send them a lot of articles, questions and material they can use in their clinic, too. Advertise and promote it.
Trish: Yep. I believe you’re going to be starting up a closed group just for practitioners, which is starting up very soon as well? Like a support group?
Riana: [crosstalk 00:15:12] That will give the therapists communication with other clinics and other staff members on their skill and just to improve the treatment at the clinic.
Trish: That sounds great. Alright, so I think I’m gonna end up with just one more question. My next question is, when I come to Canberra, can I come and have a treatment?
Riana: For sure! We’re on the south side of Canberra.
Riana: Just opposite the Hyper Dome, and we do training and treatments right through the day.
Trish: Awesome. Now, how often do you have this done Rianna? How often do you have it done on your skin?
Riana: I love the treatment every month, so every four weeks. I don’t need more treatment, but if you have a problem skin and you a specific goal, you can have it either every week or every 4th night.
Trish: The reason I ask you is because your skin looks great. I know how old you are now, and I know how good your skin looks. I’m like, “Ah, so this must be one of your little secrets!”
Riana: Yes, I think the secret lies in maintenance. If you can maintain your results and get your skin stimulated on a regular basis, then you can have good skin. I’ve done that all my life. Thank you for the compliment.
Trish: I meant it. You look great. Alright, awesome. What’d I like the listeners to know out there as well, if you’re a therapist looking for something to add, you can get in contact with Rianna and it’s just DermaplanePro. You can find her on Instagram or also just DermaplanePro.com.au, I think is just about to go up. Or if you just get lost with all that, just send me an email to email@example.com. Also, if you’re a patient who thinks, “Oh this could be something that I would absolutely love to have done,” give us a price figure Riana. How much is it worth? How much does it cost? I know what it’s worth, but how much does it cost a patient roughly?
Riana: I’m saying $100 because a new client needs to be guided through it, and if a client is coming regularly, the value is $100 would give her different options.
Trish: That’s fantastic. That’s very affordable like a good massage. Alright, well once again, if you’re a patient out there and you’re thinking, “Oh, I’d love to try this treatment and I want it done by someone who’s going to do it safely and properly and has been trained,” Just drop us an email as I said to firstname.lastname@example.org or get in touch with DermplanePro Australia on Instagram or Facebook. Thanks Riana! Thank you so much.
Riana: Thank you Trish.
Trish: No worries.
Riana: Have a lovely day.
Trish: You, too! Bye!